Odd Lots: Why Copper May Be One of the Tightest Markets The World Has Ever Seen
Podcast: Odd Lots
Episode: Why Copper May Be One of the Tightest Markets The World Has Ever Seen
Length: 41min
Produced By: Bloomberg
Date: May 30, 2022
Overview
Goldman Sachs metals strategist Nick Snowdon explains why the bank is incredibly bullish on Copper.
He explains Goldman’s $15,000 a tonne by 2025 price target, breaking down drivers of both supply and demand.
Goldman Sachs 2025 Copper Price Target
Price Target: $15,000 a tonne by 2025
- Could be conservative, copper will need to go to a level beyond any level seen before
- Oil went up 7x in 2000s to adjust market, solve imbalances
- Do not rule out $50,000 or $100,000 a tonne copper
- Have never been in such an extreme set of fundamental circumstances in copper mkt
Near Term: Markets driven by spot fundamentals
- Weakness in Chinese demand due to covid lock downs
- Slightly stronger exports of copper out of Russia vs. expectations
- These are transitory issues
Structural / Long Term:
- There is no decarbonization without copper
- Integral to key green technologies – EVs, EV charging infrastructure, Renewables
- Demand impact from decarb over next decade will generate as much of an uplift to Copper demand as China did in the 2000s
- At the same time, we hit peak copper supply in next 2 years
- There is an absence of new investment
- After that peak, supply is trending towards open ended contraction
What will balance prices in the long term?
- Demand destruction to achieve rebalancing
- Copper is a small part of the price of any end good
- Ex. Copper is a small part of overall price of an EV
- Would need massive increases in price to achieve necessary increase in overall cost to drive demand destruction
- Very different to agriculture, energy markets
Forecasting Demand
Current Demand – 24 million tons in 2022
- Dominated by non-green demand (~22.5 million tons)
- construction, wiring in houses, in electronics, cars, grid
- Green demand is around 1.5 million tons
- EVs, EV charging infrastructure, green power generation
Growing Green Demand
- Already seeing incredible growth in the EV sector, especially in China
- Aggressive growth in green infrastructure
- Green demand is no longer theoretical, it is growing now
- Over next 5 to 10 years:
- 2025: Green demand doubles, to around 3 million tons
- 2030: Green demand rises to 6-7 million tons
- ~20% of total copper demand (from 5% today)
What are the alternatives to Copper?
- Copper has no close competitors in key role as conductor
- Has primacy over key roles in grid, cars
- Aluminum is the most obvious potential substitute
- Would need way more aluminum to achieve same level of conductivity as copper
- Not practical for uses with small amount of space
- Possibly some substitution when space is not confined
- Aluminum market is facing its own story of under investment on the supply side
- Aluminum is also levered to green transition
Forecasting Supply
Lack of Fresh Investment
- No shortage of copper in earth’s crust
- There are potential, mineable options out there but capital is not flowing to these projects
- Very different vs. 2000s
- In 2000s, there was a supply side respond to the increase in demand
- Supply and demand increased in lock-step
- This time that is not happening at all – no new copper mine approved in last 2 years even as prices have doubled
- #1 constraint – the experience of the last cycle
- The mining industry faced near death experience as a result of the overbuild in response to high prices in mid/late 2000s
- Management in the mining sector is taking a much more conservative approach now
- Another difference – ESG influence
- Less capital flowing into commodities sectors (dont screen well thru ESG filter)
- Higher ESG hurdles for new projects
- For a new mine you will need 2-3 years to get the right permits to move forward (was only 6-12 months 20 years ago)
- Chile is Saudi Arabia of copper market, permitting process has tripled in length
- Lack of Talent
- Young people no longer going into mining sector
- Not enough engineers to support a new project (practical bottlenecks)
Outlook for new mines:
- Next 12 months: final spurt of growth set to come through
- A small number of projects in Chile, Peru and the Copperbelt in Africa
- Then we hit peak production at end of ’23, Q1 ’24
- Open ended contraction of ~1% per year from 2025 onwards
- Pretty set in stone
- What changes this?
- Price – realization that copper is absolutely a key material for transition, will become a decarbonization bottleneck
New production technology?
- Nothing similar to Shale breakthrough that will dramatically change supply
- Some marginal developments around achieving higher returns from tailings deposits
- marginal production gain, nothing along the lines of shale
A Note on Copper Futures Prices
- The chart above shows the CME Copper Futures price, which is quoted in U.S. dollars per pound.
- The $15,000 copper price target above is U.S. dollars per tonne. LME Copper Futures are quoted in U.S. dollars per tonne.
- 1 tonne = 2205 pounds